daraknor (daraknor) wrote in newatlantis,

Stage 3: Ocean Surface

This is from a Q&A session from Seastead.org. They have seasteading as well. I also found this little bit of legal trickery during my studies of the UN Laws. I plan to take advantage of it in a way they did not perceive or comment on so I will still keep that information in a small circle. Obviously there are people who have similar ideas. Their project calls for about half a million dollars in construction, I anticipate they will go over budget. Our initial ocean site is preconstructed, but needs minor repairs and paint to avoid rust cuts.

I have been following this group for some time, they have similar goals but probably haven't thought far enough ahead. We should probably collaborate with them in the future but my initial comments (with little information backing me up) were lost in the shuffle. There is one major failure of logic I see so far, and that is the fact they claim it is inexpensive to move on the ocean. I just spent the past 2 hours talking to someone about the disparity in pricing between industrial uses and naval uses of similar equipment. I have seen surface level research on their part, but little depth. I will continue looking.

EEZ = Exclusive Economic Zone

Q: The law of the sea legitimized the 200 mile EEZ and I have trouble seeing how you could stay out of the property of the coastal and island states, particularly in the Mediterranean.

A: There's no EEZs in the Med, only Exclusive Fishing Zones. There are a couple of answers. One answer is that its possible for seasteads to be outside 200 nautical miles. It makes everything more difficult and more expensive and we'd prefer not to, but that's one method. Another answer is to be in a place like the Med without EEZs. A third answer is that the set of rights that a coastal state has outside the 24m territorial limit and inside the 200nm EEZ is a very limited set, there are like 6 clauses. now one of those clauses is the building of artificial platforms but its a much more limited set of rights and if you're negotaiating for a treaty with a coastal state within the EEZ, you're not negotiating for sovereignty. I'm very skeptical of the idea that a state will sell you sovereignty. But within the EEZ, all you need is a treaty which says, we can sit here and capture the wind and use the sun and build this platform, and that's a much much lesser thing for a state to give up than to give up sovereignty, because they have a much more limited set of rights. And besides the Med there are also special places. It turns out that EEZs don't wrap around, so you get these weird places like in Gibraltar, Gibraltar is a UK protectorate, they only claim 3 nm., yet EEZs don't wrap around, so there's a shadow cast by Gibraltar where you can be 4 nm from Gibraltar and in international waters.
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